In The Defense of K-Roll

"M-Powwerr Drives a Ford" (straight6fun) 11/12/2014 at 19:37 • Filed to: None

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I know exactly how you feel, you want something you might not necessarily be able to afford right now and you're worried that by the time you will be able to afford it, they will be gone. See this M3, I want it. I want one of the last analog BMW M's, before the e46 body style, before Chris Bangle, before all this safety and emissions shit happened. I also want to buy a NEW BMW with an I6 and a manual. ONE NEW BMW, before the Eco-wienies and nanny states win. I am a sophomore in high school, hell I wont have my driver's license until February 13, 2015. I want to be a doctor, and there is a lot of schooling involved, and a lot of costs involved. But if I have to, I will stretch my self thin to afford a new F3x M3/4 if it is the last M with a manual. My mom keeps saying "you probably don't need a car", and that's true, I probably don't. I won't know until February at the soonest what/if financial help I'll receive from my family (though my grandparents have hinted at buying or at least helping me) but I'm prepared to take out a loan and work my ass off for what I want. I want that e36 because eventually only the very rich will have not shitty examples, and I want to experience a reasonably mechanical car once at least before the analog era cars disappear forever.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > M-Powwerr Drives a Ford 11/12/2014 at 19:41

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Well done.

And for some ridiculous reason, the new M3/4 is called the F8x platform.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > M-Powwerr Drives a Ford 11/12/2014 at 19:42

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See this guy gets it. This is what being an enthusiast is all about. Go on! Get that E36!

M-Powwerr Drives a Ford > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 11/12/2014 at 19:42

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I knew that...:-/

T5Killer > M-Powwerr Drives a Ford 11/12/2014 at 19:43

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I have the same feelings with the 2003/2004 Cobras. I was this close to selling my 95 and getting one two years ago and my wife and I found out we were expecting our 2nd child. I put it on the back burner and wonder now when I can get one there will be no good ones left and too old to enjoy.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 11/12/2014 at 19:44

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Nope, it's the F30 because I said so.

M-Powwerr Drives a Ford > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback 11/12/2014 at 19:45

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Believe me, if at all possible I will driving an e36 in 6 months.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > M-Powwerr Drives a Ford 11/12/2014 at 19:47

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I really want an MG but I don't quite have the finances to afford the maintenance right now.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback 11/12/2014 at 19:47

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I can get on board with this.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > M-Powwerr Drives a Ford 11/12/2014 at 19:49

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if you can't guess from my profile pic, I have a GLI. I loved the GLi. I lusted for the GLI. I adored the GLI.

now that I have one, I don't anymore. it has flaws. the undefeatable TCS. the lack of HP. the price I got it at (overpayed like an idiot) and the lack of RWD.

I want something else. I know I don't even deserve this, but I want more.... It's a human condition to want more. and I've been called spoiled for wanting more, and I want to disagree with that notion. you're not spoiled if you want more than you have. you're aspiring

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > M-Powwerr Drives a Ford 11/12/2014 at 19:51

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No need to defend me, I was wrong and everyone else was right. I'm an imbecile and that's that.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 11/12/2014 at 19:55

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Correct. Aspiring, not spoiled.

M-Powwerr Drives a Ford > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 11/12/2014 at 19:56

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Never would have guessed (sarcasm). I think that's true with anything, though I've gotten to the point where there are 3 things my life is lacking and needs. A girl, a dog, and a BMW. The BMW will be the easiest of the 3 to get I'm sure!

And to your second point, does anybody really deserve anything? I've been blessed to have a wonderful family, who would do almost anything for me. I like in a nice house, in a beautiful area, have 2 grandparents still, never have been hungry, and have traveled. What did I do to deserve this life while the kid born after me at the hospital may live on Ramen and work to support his family at 15?

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/12/2014 at 19:57

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No you are not an imbecile. In case you didn't see it— http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/im-an-idiot-a-…

M-Powwerr Drives a Ford > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/12/2014 at 20:00

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You are NOT an imbecile. Who paid for the cars? YOU! If you were bitching about a car your parents worked hard to buy you and you told them you really had wanted it, then changed your mind I wouldn't have written this post! You did nothing wrong #1, #2 this is the internet, and people will say shitty things because they aren't looking at your face.

AlmostJalop > M-Powwerr Drives a Ford 11/12/2014 at 20:11

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woah.

I'm 15, licensed about a month after you, and I'm pretty much in the same situation. I'm mainly looking at either a Datsun 240/280z or an E36 M3. My parents would rather have me wait until my senior year of high school and use the money I save up as a downpayment for an accord. No thanks. There's a PERFECT datsun for sale right now.. But it's $6k and I only have $1100.. I'm only making about $450 a month (only work weekends, VA labor laws) so by the time I have the money it'll be long gone.

I fear that E36 M3's will become hard to find in good condition for reasonable prices. It's already becoming increasingly hard to find one locally.. There's only 2 good Datsuns locally right now, so I really need to save up before I miss my chance and the value in them rises.. And they WILL rise soon enough.

I also have a sibling in college, and another going to college after '16 so it's pretty tough convincing my parents to help me buy a car older than I am.

M-Powwerr Drives a Ford > AlmostJalop 11/12/2014 at 20:17

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If push came to shove I could get a loan from my grandparents and my dad is on my side. My mom however, is a control freak and I think she's against me having a car physiologically (her first baby is growing up). My mom, if anything, wants me to get some Honda from an old person) (read: automatic, base trim, etc.)

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/12/2014 at 20:21

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You're not an imbecile. You're just experiencing what it's like to make a major purchase and then have some buyers remorse. I understand. No matter how happy I am with something I buy I end up wanting something else.

Stop beating yourself up so much.

Suggestion - instead of writing a post like the one you made you can just talk to your close friends on Oppo about it in the comments. Creating a whole post brings in lots of people, and some of them say mean things that make you feel a lot worse than you did before creating the post in the first place.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Manuél Ferrari 11/12/2014 at 20:23

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I already feel like shit, and nothings gonna me feel better. ;-;

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/12/2014 at 20:26

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I know but the public posts probably make you feel even worse. Even if you're not gonna feel better you can at least try to avoid feeling worse...

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Manuél Ferrari 11/12/2014 at 20:30

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Maybe I just wanted to feel like shit. :(

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/12/2014 at 20:33

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Hmm. Maybe?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Manuél Ferrari 11/12/2014 at 20:36

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Rusto, I'm scared. I don't no what to think or do right now. I've never admitted it before, but I'm genuinely scared. :(

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/12/2014 at 20:58

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I'm sorry :( I wish I could make you feel better

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Manuél Ferrari 11/12/2014 at 21:01

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Why does it have to be me? :(

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/12/2014 at 21:07

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I dunno. Just try to hang in there buddy!

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/12/2014 at 21:07

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I dunno. Just try to hang in there buddy!

AlmostJalop > M-Powwerr Drives a Ford 11/12/2014 at 21:22

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Yeah my parents don't want me in something old.. Ideally they'd have me in a 2-3 year old Honda. No thanks. Luckily my dad is willing to match however much I make.. But I still have to convince him to let me get something older. He seems to be on board with the E36 M3 so far.

Jephy > M-Powwerr Drives a Ford 11/12/2014 at 22:15

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Dear kids whom are unhappy with their current pretty nice car situation.

Nearly EVERYONE has things they want or aspire to own in life. EVERYONE

The issue most are having here with the incessant whining is that most of us don't publicly bitch about it all the time. If you want something, go fucking get it, but don't expect it to just happen now because you think you deserve it or because it may not be there in a few years. Whatever.

Put your god damn head down and Just. DO. WORK

M-Powwerr Drives a Ford > AlmostJalop 11/12/2014 at 22:24

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My mom dosn't care that much as long as she isn't paying for it. The only Honda Accord I'd want is a V6/6mt and even then it's still wrong wheel drive. I told her if nothing else I'll buy a $750 Toyota Tercel before taking the school bus my junior year.

quarterlifecrisis > Jephy 11/12/2014 at 22:30

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Church.

John Dyste > M-Powwerr Drives a Ford 11/12/2014 at 23:12

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If the E36 is a 4 door 5 speed car and is clean, buy it. Take care of it. Keep it stock and make your friends wash their hands before they get in. Get a job in a restaurant and you'll be able to afford it.

M-Powwerr Drives a Ford > John Dyste 11/12/2014 at 23:14

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exactly how much would it's running costs be?

AlmostJalop > M-Powwerr Drives a Ford 11/12/2014 at 23:25

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Yeah taking the bus sucks. Last year my brother was a senior so he drove us, and I got used to not riding the bus. My sister isn't getting her car until spring/summer so it looks like I'll be taking the bus until I get myself a car.

M-Powwerr Drives a Ford > AlmostJalop 11/12/2014 at 23:35

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$500 craigslist beater, I told my dad I'd park a POS like that in front of our house while most of the neighbor kids have new econoboxes. I told him I'm not asking for a new car, I'm asking for support and help buying a $4-5k car. Not the car, help.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > M-Powwerr Drives a Ford 11/13/2014 at 06:00

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I get this bad. There are so, so many cars that I want that are unappreciated by most people. Cars like the Alfetta, Triumph TR8, Rover SD1, Maserati Biturbo will pretty much all be gone in the not-too distant future (or already are pretty much gone), victims of rust and neglect. The only ones left will be rare and expensive.

Not only that, but I've grown massively disillusioned with modern cars. There isn't a single car made by the manufacturers I like that I like that isn't hideously expensive. Furthermore, the only car that I would want that I might be able to afford (the Alfa version of the new MX-5) has been cancelled. Plus, the only manufacturer that I would actually buy a car from that isn't in jeopardy at the moment is Jaguar.

So basically, I'm tied to driving classic cars for the rest of my life. Classic cars that are a finite resource, the ones I like more finite than most.

This scares me.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/13/2014 at 08:57

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Depression is a real thing, and nothing to ignore. It's a chemical imbalance in the brain. My mom has suffered from it for many, many years, and we almost lost her several times...

Please do what you need to to get yourself some help with these feelings. There are a lot of people in your life (as well as here on OPPO) who care about you and want to see you do well.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/13/2014 at 09:00

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But I don't know what to do. :(

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Manuél Ferrari 11/13/2014 at 09:01

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I'm trying. :(

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/13/2014 at 09:16

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I hope you were able to get to sleep last night. It'd probably be therapeutic to get off your computer and take a long drive, or a hike, or whatever it is that you really enjoy doing and that helps clear your mind. I think finding some curvy back roads and tearing through them for an hour will probably help you gain some love back for your ST.

Have you talked to the counselors at school before about these feelings? I personally think of medication as a last resort, but if you really can not shake these thoughts of hopelessness for extended periods of time, there's something really wrong, and there are medications that can help.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/13/2014 at 10:55

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I did, I need my computer for classes and work. I've also got another class in 8 minutes. There are no curvy roads around me(seriously, Google Maps).

Counselors have never helped me before. I've given up on that kind of help. I don't want/need medication, that shit is scary.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/13/2014 at 11:08

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Sorry about the lack of curvy roads... not too many great ones really close to me, either. Some guys from work and I occasionally go seek them out (NW Arkansas is a few hours from here, and we try to take weekend trips in the spring and fall). Any other guys/gals you know that would be willing to blow a day just to go on a road trip in search of fun roads? Even if you end up going solo, a no-reason road trip can be a great break from the grind. Trust me, it's worth it. Maybe find a cool little auto museum in the area to check out as a destination.

Perhaps you just haven't found the right counselor yet. Just don't give up. I know that the though of medication is scary, but it's scarier to think of what might happen if you can't get these sorts of feelings your having under control.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/13/2014 at 11:15

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I've tried both counselors here(the only two for that matter), neither helped me. I can't go on a no-reason trip because I want there to be something at the end, a purpose for actually doing something. I hate doing things alone, but no one would go with me if I asked.

I'm just sad.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/13/2014 at 11:38

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I'm sorry, man.

I've been there. College was really rough on me as well. I found myself in a major I hated and ended up completely changing things up after three years. Finally ended up a bachelor's degree after seven years. After that, I couldn't find a good job in the field I was passionate about. But I stuck it out, and it got better.

Stick with it. Don't give up. It will get better.

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/13/2014 at 11:41

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I'm glad you're trying. Things will work out in the long run as long as you keep trying!

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Manuél Ferrari 11/13/2014 at 11:42

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But I don't want to. :(

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/13/2014 at 11:42

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:((

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/13/2014 at 11:44

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I just hate this. What's the point of suffering for years to get to some point in the future where even finding success isn't always possible?

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/13/2014 at 11:45

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oh i got an idea - can you get a doge?

fidoge makes me happy

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Manuél Ferrari 11/13/2014 at 11:46

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My mother is deathly afraid and or allergic to anything that walks on four or more legs. :(

Manuél Ferrari > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/13/2014 at 11:52

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ah, got it

will you get one when you later move out? i think you should. doges are the best. especially smooshed face doges:

http://squishfacedogs.com/

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/13/2014 at 11:55

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What in your life right now is causing you this suffering?

Like I mentioned in an earlier comment, I'd focus on finding contentment, not necessarily success. There are plenty of people who the world would not consider particularly successful that love their job and life, and plenty who would be viewed as very successful that are completely miserable and lost.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/13/2014 at 12:33

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Many things:

1. I'm not doing as well as I could in school(motivation is low, and it has to do with everything else too).

2. Stress(everyone and everything is putting all the weight of the world and future on my shoulders.

3. I'm unsuccessful/hopeless with girls

4. I'm also black, which has to do with everything else

5. I'm just not happy with life and there's nothin I can do to change it, because of 1-4.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/13/2014 at 14:07

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1 - I'm guessing the majority here can say they've had similar issues with school/work. It doesn't help, but know that you're definitely not alone there. Maybe playing Mustang GT audio clips on repeat while you study will help with motivation - ha!

2 - I get it. It sucks. But to the best of your ability, put everyone else's expectations of you out of your mind. If you figure out want you want to do, and are working toward that goal for yourself, they should be very supportive. If anyone in your life chooses not to be, that's on them.

3 - Definitely been there. I have no idea how I ended up with the girl who is now my wife of 14 years, and mother of my children. Full disclosure: I'd never even been on a real date before meeting her. Maybe I'm just lucky/blessed, but I think that there's someone out there for everyone. Perhaps getting involved in a couple new clubs at school would put you in contact with some girls that you haven't yet met. Does your school have a Formula SAE club? That's something I wish I'd gotten involved with. Not sure if there will be girls there, but it will be an outlet for your passion, and guys who are passionate about what they do are more attractive to the opposite sex.

4 - I'm so white I can't ever own a convertible, so I'm not sure if I can help you here...

5 - There's always something you can do to make a change. And while I don't know you personally, it seems like you have a lot in your life to be happy and thankful for if you step back and take a look. As best you can, focus on the things that do make you laugh and give you joy, and put these sorrowful thoughts out of your head. Find a way to get passionate about your schoolwork, spend time with your family (at least the ones that build you up), and strengthen old friendships or work to kindle new ones.

AlmostJalop > M-Powwerr Drives a Ford 11/13/2014 at 14:57

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yeah I mean I'm totally fine with driving a beater if I have to. I'm just asking for my parents to loan me some money, I mean I'll pay them back for it.

M-Powwerr Drives a Ford > AlmostJalop 11/13/2014 at 16:38

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Yeah, a loan would be nice, because I'd be killed with interest if I got a bank loan.

AlmostJalop > M-Powwerr Drives a Ford 11/13/2014 at 17:06

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Yeah and I feel like it would be pretty tough to get a loan on a car that's around my age haha.

M-Powwerr Drives a Ford > AlmostJalop 11/13/2014 at 17:08

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little bit lol

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 11/13/2014 at 17:32

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Hey kid - if you're really leaving for good (and I honestly hope you aren't), take care of yourself and remember that you've got a lot of people who do care about you (family, friends and fellow enthusiasts here on OPPO), who want you to be happy and want to see you do well.

Don't let the sadness overtake you. If you need someone to talk to, you can write me any time at dclange (at) gmail.

You'll be missed. Come back and join us once you clear your head.

Dave

Carlitos the Fünfer > M-Powwerr Drives a Ford 11/14/2014 at 17:01

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That feeling never changes. If you can conceivably make it happen and afford it, do it. Even if you have to work your ass off. There will always be that one car that always seems out of your reach. So don't think that once you get that E36 you'll be fulfilled by it. But at the same time, don't put off something until it's more realistic. Don't make excuses for why you can't buy it now and you should get it later, because later never comes. Why not now? This one is the dream for me, and I really can't afford it now. Hopefully one day, and hopefully when I have the money I won't make excuses.